View Full Version : Clutch and axles
Bad Biddy
02-07-2010, 02:14 PM
Im getting down to the items i dont know that much about. I have been doing some research on clutches and have been given some different ideas on what to do. But i wanna hear your stories.
I have been looking at clutch masters, act, and competition clutches. Stages 3 and 4. What im going to be done with my vehicle as of now it will be daily driven. Im wondering if there is anyone else that daily drives with any of these clutches?
I also have heard that maybe i should replace my axles when i go turbo to maybe some beefier ones. I have heard getting like pepboys because they offer a lifetime guarentee on them.
Lets hear your opinions.
My car im hoping to make from 300-350 hp..:driving: daily driven.
aojtin
02-07-2010, 02:20 PM
look into raxles. i believe they are lifetime. also they can make custom ones for you
Bad Biddy
02-07-2010, 02:32 PM
kk they a local shop?
aojtin
02-07-2010, 02:33 PM
no its online. let me get you the website
aojtin
02-07-2010, 02:34 PM
http://www.raxles.com/
paulzy
02-07-2010, 05:16 PM
comp clutch for sure. keep the axles stock and ride the clutch
Bad Biddy
02-07-2010, 05:20 PM
which stage would you recommend paulzy? its gonna be for daily driving. Im not worried alot about stop and go driving but it could happen so im lookin for a clutch that will be able to handle the power yet still be good for my legs.
Bad Biddy
02-07-2010, 11:43 PM
bump anyone?
Mgroshong
02-07-2010, 11:54 PM
I love my act extreme pressure plate and oem disk in my ef 4door, it grabs like stock but holds some more power. I also have a comp stage 2 clutch in my s2000. it is stock like engagement and is very nice to drive around in.
So i would go with comp. clutch or act.
AlexD
02-08-2010, 12:02 AM
ive only had experiences with ACT clutches and i loved the one i have right now and my previous ACT clutch which was a modified street disk package.
however, ive heard that competition stage 4 clutches are the way to go for FI. Theres a guy using that one on his fully built gt3076r integra making 433whp 300wtq on low boost and 501whp 372 wtq on hi boost
AlexD
02-08-2010, 12:03 AM
and as far as axles go, i would just invest in a nice set of axles. check out gator axles or drive shaft shop.
the pep boys may offer a lifetime warranty, but cmon, its going to be a pain in the ass taking the axles out and reinstalling them each time you snap them
Mgroshong
02-08-2010, 12:14 AM
Who snaps axles? some should learn to preload the drivetrain and not just dump the clutch.
I have never snapped an axle and i have run on slicks as large as 22" so i can't speak for the big slick cars. But i find good condition stock axles. just fine.
snoboarder636
02-08-2010, 12:16 AM
i run a comp clutch stg 4 6puck its a nice clutch and a little more weigh to push but wasnt bad. my only complaint is that the throw out bearing wentout right away (6k miles) but idk if that was becasue of a master cyl or slave cyl not working properly. i would also invest in a nice steel flywheel also. i ran a comp clutch 12 pound steel fly wheel i believe and it was super nice. i wouldnt go with aluminum lightweight flywheel because u want some weight with a boosted car
in all my clutch was around $330 and flywheel was $200
edit: im going to run the same clutch this year and will see if it can hold the power. im planning on making 600whp+ on higher boost, but i wont make much torque bcuz im running a 67mm turbo
SPANISH-RICE
02-08-2010, 12:18 AM
Who snaps axles? some should learn to preload the drivetrain and not just dump the clutch.
I have never snapped an axle and i have run on slicks as large as 22" so i can't speak for the big slick cars. But i find good condition stock axles. just fine.
this this this^
snapping axles should not happen with 350 whp if youre doing it right. and if you get factory honda axles theres a 12 month 12,000 mile parts warranty on them
SPANISH-RICE
02-08-2010, 12:20 AM
i loved my Aluminum flywheel. it loved high Rs and revd up really quick. jsut stay on the juice between shifts and keep the turbo spinnin.
Mgroshong
02-08-2010, 12:21 AM
From what i have read and coming from my own experience with lightweight flywheels. I have a feeling it all comes down to personal preference. I loved how my friends civic rev matched and shifted with his lightweight flywheel (9lbs i think).
I i were to get a lightweight flywheel for my car I will get one on the lighter side rather then heavier.
Bad Biddy
02-08-2010, 12:23 AM
Alex D. was that guy daily driving his vehicle?
Snoboarder636- Have you had to replace your throwout bearing anymore times? Where did you buy your clutch from?
From these opinions im leaning more towards competition clutch which was my number 1 choice in the first place :)
Mgroshong
02-08-2010, 12:23 AM
i loved my Aluminum flywheel. it loved high Rs and revd up really quick. jsut stay on the juice between shifts and keep the turbo spinnin.
After driving your car brandon it's where i get my love for light flywheels. It was perfect for rev matching.
Yes, never let off the gas and shift the bitch fast. done and done.
Bad Biddy
02-08-2010, 12:25 AM
i was looking into new flywheels but was told not to get too light because of the rpm drops in between gears.... So seeing spanish-rice had a 12lb work out great for him i might work with something like that.
SPANISH-RICE
02-08-2010, 12:30 AM
i had a 7.6 lbs flywheel and i will always try and go no heavier than that if i dont have to. driving that with the clutch/master cylinder adjusted correctly is serisouly like driving a totally different vehicle
snoboarder636
02-08-2010, 12:32 AM
i spun a rod bearing, so i havent driving my car since last may.. im going with a honda oem throw out bearing this time around
Mgroshong
02-08-2010, 12:34 AM
the only way the rpm's would drop a lot between gears, is if you can't drive. And move slower then my grandma.
Bad Biddy
02-08-2010, 12:54 AM
lol^^ yeah but i prob dont need the lightest flywheel, this is my first real build. This is my starting ground. If i do seem to like the fast revs i might go lower on the next build.
snoboarder636
02-08-2010, 01:03 AM
personally id rather stay with a steel flywheel because aluminum heats up faster( rule of thumb) but personally ive never owned one so i guess icant say they are bad. but a good alternative is a 8-10 lb steel one like this>> http://competitionclutch.com/products/index.php?id=1100
and i think i do actually have the ultra light weight one
Bad Biddy
02-08-2010, 01:06 AM
how about this setup
http://competitionclutch.com/store/dsp_part_detail.php?vinvid=2476
snoboarder636
02-08-2010, 01:06 AM
nothing comes up^^
Bad Biddy
02-08-2010, 01:09 AM
dam. well its a competition stage 4 clutch with the light weight flywheel combo price they have going on for 575$
Mgroshong
02-08-2010, 01:12 AM
this is what your looking at i think?
http://competitionclutch.com/store/dsp_part_detail.php?vinvid=2476
snoboarder636
02-08-2010, 01:12 AM
i would just look on ebay to tell u the truth or call up a shop in the tc
Bad Biddy
02-08-2010, 01:12 AM
yes sir^^ thats the one
Mgroshong
02-08-2010, 01:14 AM
brett i can get comp clutches, if you want lmk.
Bad Biddy
02-08-2010, 01:17 AM
pm me a price. just so i know matt.
SPANISH-RICE
02-08-2010, 01:31 AM
compl clutches are pimp. good choice.
Bad Biddy
02-08-2010, 01:34 AM
thanks man^
kinetics
02-08-2010, 10:53 AM
I'm running an ACT HD 6 puck sprung w/a 7lb Fidanza aluminum flywheel.
The clutch is a little on the stiff side. It's fine for daily, and mild stop and go, but gets to be annoying in heavy stop and go.
I was running the same flywheel before blowing up the motor, and took it to have it resurfaced.
20k miles on it, the shop checked it out, and they said it looked near new, and didn't need resurfacing.
As far as I can tell, they hold up pretty well.
I haven't done a ton of racing on it, and probably only a couple dozen launches.
As for light vs. not light, it's a matter of driveability.
I've see people put in a lightweight, and kill the car the first time they try to drive it.
They simply don't have the inertia the steel ones do, so it makes driving it a little more work, but also a lot more fun, IMO.
Revs will go up and down quickly, as everyone else has said, matching is much easier.
If it's purely a numbers game though, go for lightweight, since you're pulling 10+ lbs of rotational mass out of the equation, which = goodness.
Bad Biddy
02-08-2010, 10:59 AM
thanks for the opinion kinetics. Im going with the competition stage 4 package. it comes with the stage 4 clutch and a flywheel but it says its 8-10lbs
kinetics
02-08-2010, 11:04 AM
Probably a good choice.
I think you'll like the lighter flywheel.
As for the clutch, it's one of those games we all have to play.
I'm sure most everyone's been pretty happy with what they've had.
Shit, I had a stage 1 Exedy in the stock B16, and even that held up fine.
Comp seems to be pretty well regarded, so you probably are making a good choice.
Bad Biddy
02-08-2010, 11:05 AM
thanks man. i just didnt want to make a bad choice on a clutch that everyone has been having problems with.
gsrintegra175
02-08-2010, 12:08 PM
get the stage 4 comp, i have a 290 hp 250Tq and i just roasted my cluch master stage 3, i was driving like a dick but i want it to take that kind of abuse. for my build motor i went with the stage 5 comp, but im shooting for 450.
paulzy
02-08-2010, 10:13 PM
stage 4 should be good for what you want to do. If you want to go a little over kill, ask for the upgraded plate.
AlexD
02-08-2010, 10:43 PM
paulzy, can you pm me your best price on a cc stage 4 thx
gsrintegra175
02-09-2010, 12:11 AM
pm jordan, he has one for cheep.
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